Interview is from October 2005, NewsHour with Jim Lehrer
Lawrence B. Wilkerson was Chief of Staff at the Department of State from August 2002 to January 2005.
Wilkerson has accused a cabal led by Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld of hijacking U.S. foreign policy by circumventing or ignoring formal decision-making channels. He has also charged that, as national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice was part of the problem by not ensuring that the policy-making process was open to all relevant participants
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